Name: When does outsourcing security actually make sense? #08
Uploaded: 2026-10-08T15:45:00.000Z
Duration: 2063
Description: This episode looks at security outsourcing through John’s experience on both sides of the table, having worked as both a provider and a customer. Second part of...

This episode looks at security outsourcing through John’s experience on both sides of the table, having worked as both a provider and a customer.

Second part of my conversation with John WALLWORTH, Information Security Officer at System C Healthcare

CHAPTERS
00:00 - In this episode & intro
01:59 - How internal teams think about conversations about outsourcing
08:53 - Internal vs external: understanding the real cost of running a service
13:58 - Sometimes outsourcing is the answer. Sometimes it's not
19:22 - Using externals to say things you can't say internally
24:06 - Funny story: John’s own work gets presented back to him
28:37 - What John learned from that experience
32:16 - John’s final message

GUEST
John WALLWORTH, Information Security Officer at System C Healthcare
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-wallworth-citp-mbcs-202410a6/

HOST
Michael VIRGONE
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