September 17, 2026
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Helping AI agents understand what secure means for your business #06

Second part of my conversation with Erlend OFTEDAL - AppSec and AI security researcher.

CHAPTERS

(01:23) - DORA state report (link below), improved delivery throughput, but also increased delivery stability

(05:25) - Planning stage: shifting the focus from attacks to defensive code and security principles

(09:03) - Teaching AI agents to write more secure code is sort of the same thing as teaching developers to write more secure code

(12:08) - Planning stage: the typing was never the bottleneck. The thinking was

(15:45) - With AI writing code, how do you bring security into the development process?

(20:29) - Security team being able to ask AI how secure the code is

(22:38) - What we need to do right now + AppSec and AI agents

(27:21) - Choose the right AI agent for the right purpose (e.g. Claude vs OpenPrep)

(32:03) - Leverage AI to analyse legacy code to find vulnerabilities, Firefox example, etc.

(38:22) - Last words

LINK MENTIONED

2025 DORA State of AI-assisted Software Development report: https://cloud.google.com/resources/content/2025-dora-ai-assisted-software-development-report

GUEST

Erlend OFTEDAL- AppSec and AI security researcher

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erlendoftedal/

HOST

Michael VIRGONE

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelvirgone/

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