First part of my conversation with Erlend OFTEDAL- AppSec and AI security researcher.
CHAPTERS
(01:04) - How is the role of the developers changing with the increase of code developed by AI
(04:17) - AI gives you more options, makes us more productive + some benefits of AI (building quick app)
(06:33) - Example of containing the agents, the two-sided problems to contain the agents (trust vs agency of the AIs)
(09:49) - If we have bad practices in the company, AI as an amplifier, would amplify those
(14:15) - You can fake competency, Stack Overflow rankings, code on GitHub
(18:04) - Automating social engineering, the agents creating GitHub users playing the long game
(21:26) - Proprietary code and AI & how it changes the developers’ job developing proprietary code
(26:29) - Will we have new open-source frameworks in the future and what will they look like
(31:02) - About old languages like COBOL & the bigger picture
(34:02) - Another use of AI, finding and fixing low-severity bugs
LINK MENTIONED
2025 DORA State of AI-assisted Software Development report: https://cloud.google.com/resources/content/2025-dora-ai-assisted-software-development-report
GUEST
Erlend OFTEDAL- AppSec and AI security researcher
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erlendoftedal/
HOST
Michael VIRGONE
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelvirgone/
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